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Invictus wrote:
'A moment I've been dreading. George brought his n'er-do-well son around this morning and asked me to find the kid a job. Not the political one who lives in Florida; the one who hangs around here all the time looking shiftless. This so-called kid is already almost 40 and has never had a real job. Maybe I'll call Kinsley over at The New Republic and see if they'll hire him as a contributing editor or something. That looks like easy work.'
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The world would probably be a less interesting, but maybe a little nicer of a place.

Now, if you gentlefolk will excuse me, I need to run across America waving a flag and laughing at the top of my lungs. Right after taking a dump in the driver's seat of the Straight Talk Express.
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Magister Militum wrote:Kinda makes you wonder, though, what would have happen if Bush did get the job at The New Republic.
I think he'd get fired very, very quickly. :lol:
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Screw Wolverine. Now we have Frogverine.
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CRUNCHY FROG!
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New York Times.
WASHINGTON — A top adviser to Senator John McCain says Mr. McCain believes that President Bush’s program of wiretapping without warrants was lawful, a position that appears to bring him into closer alignment with the sweeping theories of executive authority pushed by the Bush administration legal team.

In a letter posted online by National Review this week, the adviser, Douglas Holtz-Eakin, said Mr. McCain believed that the Constitution gave Mr. Bush the power to authorize the National Security Agency to monitor Americans’ international phone calls and e-mail without warrants, despite a 1978 federal statute that required court oversight of surveillance.

Mr. McCain believes that “neither the administration nor the telecoms need apologize for actions that most people, except for the A.C.L.U. and trial lawyers, understand were constitutional and appropriate in the wake of the attacks on Sept. 11, 2001,” Mr. Holtz-Eakin wrote.

And if Mr. McCain is elected president, Mr. Holtz-Eakin added, he would do everything he could to prevent terrorist attacks, “including asking the telecoms for appropriate assistance to collect intelligence against foreign threats to the United States as authorized by Article II of the Constitution.”

Although a spokesman for Mr. McCain, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, denied that the senator’s views on surveillance and executive power had shifted, legal specialists said the letter contrasted with statements Mr. McCain previously made about the limits of presidential power.

In an interview about his views on the limits of executive power with The Boston Globe six months ago, Mr. McCain strongly suggested that if he became the next commander in chief, he would consider himself obligated to obey a statute restricting what he did in national security matters.

Mr. McCain was asked whether he believed that the president had constitutional power to conduct surveillance on American soil for national security purposes without a warrant, regardless of federal statutes.

He replied: “There are some areas where the statutes don’t apply, such as in the surveillance of overseas communications. Where they do apply, however, I think that presidents have the obligation to obey and enforce laws that are passed by Congress and signed into law by the president, no matter what the situation is.”

Following up, the interviewer asked whether Mr. McCain was saying a statute trumped a president’s powers as commander in chief when it came to a surveillance law. “I don’t think the president has the right to disobey any law,” Mr. McCain replied.

David Golove, a New York University law professor who specializes in executive power issues, said that while the language used by Mr. McCain in his answers six months ago was imprecise, the recent statement by Mr. Holtz-Eakin “seems to contradict precisely what he said earlier.”

Mr. McCain’s position, as outlined by Mr. Holtz-Eakin, was criticized by the campaign of his presumptive Democratic opponent in the presidential election, Senator Barack Obama of Illinois. Greg Craig, an Obama campaign adviser, said Wednesday that anyone reading Mr. McCain’s answers to The Globe and the more recent statement would be “totally confused” about “what Senator McCain thinks about what the Constitution means and what President Bush did.”

“American voters deserve to know which side of this flip-flop he’s on today, and what he would do as president,” Mr. Craig said in a phone interview.

Tucker Bounds, a McCain campaign spokesman, said Mr. McCain’s position on surveillance laws and executive power “has not changed.”

“John McCain has been an unequivocal advocate of pursuing the radicals and extremists who seek to attack Americans,” Mr. Bounds wrote in an e-mail message, adding that Mr. McCain’s “votes and positions have been completely consistent and any suggestion otherwise is a distortion of his clear record.”

Asked whether the views Mr. Holtz-Eakin imputed to Mr. McCain were inaccurate, Mr. Bounds did not repudiate the statement. But late Thursday Mr. Bounds called and said, “to the extent that the comments of members of our staff are misinterpreted, they shouldn’t be read into as anything otherwise.”

Neither Mr. McCain nor Mr. Holtz-Eakin, a former head of the Congressional Budget Office who primarily advises the campaign on economic issues, was available for comment, Mr. Bounds said.

Mr. McCain has long distanced himself from the Bush administration on legal issues involving detention and interrogation in the fight against terrorism, an approach that has sometimes aroused suspicion among conservative supporters of the Bush administration.

But more recently, as Mr. McCain has worked to consolidate his party’s base, he has taken several positions that have won him praise from his former critics while drawing fire from Democrats.

In February, for example, Mr. McCain voted against limiting the Central Intelligence Agency to the techniques approved in the Army Field Manual on Interrogation, which complies with the Geneva Conventions. Mr. McCain said the C.I.A. needed the flexibility to use other techniques so long as it did not abuse detainees.

He also voted for legislation that would free telecommunications companies from lawsuits alleging that they illegally allowed the N.S.A. to eavesdrop on their customers’ phone calls and e-mail without a warrant. The legislation would also essentially legalize a form of surveillance without warrants going forward.

But Mr. McCain had previously stopped short of endorsing the view that Mr. Bush’s program of surveillance without warrants was lawful all along because a president’s wartime powers can trump statutory limits.

Andrew C. McCarthy, a National Review columnist who has defended the administration’s legal theories, wrote that Mr. Holtz-Eakin’s statement “implicitly shows Senator McCain’s thinking has changed as time has gone on and he has educated himself on this issue.”

And Glenn Greenwald, a Salon columnist and critic of the Bush administration’s legal claims, wrote that the statement was a “complete reversal” by Mr. McCain, accusing the candidate of seeking “to shore up the support of right-wing extremists.”

The reaction to Mr. Holtz-Eakin’s statement is the latest link in a chain of disputes over Mr. McCain’s positions on surveillance over the past two weeks.

On May 23, the McCain campaign sent a volunteer lawyer, Chuck Fish, to be the candidate’s surrogate at a conference on computer policy. Mr. Fish spoke at a panel discussion on whether phone and Internet companies should be granted immunity from lawsuits for having helped Mr. Bush’s surveillance program.

Mr. Fish suggested that Mr. McCain wanted to impose conditions — like Congressional hearings — that would ensure that such “forgiveness” would not signal that the telecoms should feel free to disregard communications privacy laws in the future if a president tells them to.

After Wired magazine wrote about Mr. Fish’s remarks on its blog, raising the question of whether Mr. McCain’s position had become more skeptical about immunity, the McCain campaign put out a statement saying that Mr. Fish was mistaken. Mr. McCain supported ending the lawsuits without conditions and his position had not changed, the campaign said.

On May 29, The Washington Post quoted Mr. Holtz-Eakin as saying that Mr. McCain did not want the telecoms “put into this position again” and that “there must be clear guidelines for their participation and sufficient vetting” in any future situation.

Mr. Holtz-Eakin’s comments in turn drew fire from Mr. McCarthy. In a blog posting on the National Review Web site, he demanded to know whether Mr. McCain believes the Constitution authorizes a president to lawfully go “arguably beyond what is prescribed in a statute” during a national security crisis.

Mr. Holtz-Eakin laid out Mr. McCain’s position on the president’s claimed constitutional powers to bypass surveillance laws in a letter to Mr. McCarthy, who this week called the statement “extremely significant” and said it “marks a welcome evolution on the senator’s thinking about executive power.”
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Mccain, do not do this to us! This is even worse than Obama's military funding deduction (and I really say fuck him for that). Mccain, Mccain, do not be like the topsy turvy, or the Donkeys will surely moan with glee.

Bad poetry.

I mean, terrorists can find other ways to communicate than email. Actually, email and phone are probably the last things those towelheads are going to do. Bush & Mccain: -1. Buying an AR-15: +10. 8-)
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Heretic wrote:Mccain, do not do this to us! This is even worse than Obama's military funding deduction (and I really say fuck him for that).
Why not? Do you have any idea what kind of a total financial clusterfuck your country is in right now?
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Wiki: Iraq and WMDs
Despite the removal of Saddam and his regime by American forces, there is deep resentment and anger in Iran that it was Western nations that helped Iraq develop and direct its chemical weapons arsenal in the first place and that the world did nothing to punish Iraq for its use of chemical weapons throughout the war.[citation needed] For example, the US and UK blocked condemnation of Iraq's known chemical weapons attacks at the UN Security Council. No resolution was passed during the war that specifically criticized Iraq's use of chemical weapons, despite the wishes of the majority to condemn this use. On 21 March 1986 the United Nation Security Council recognized that "chemical weapons on many occasions have been used by Iraqi forces against Iranian forces"; this statement was opposed by the United States, the sole country to vote against it in the Security Council (the UK abstained).
On March 23, 1988 western media sources reported from Halabja in Iraqi Kurdistan, that several days before Iraq had launched a large scale chemical assault on the town. Later estimates were that 7000 people had been killed and 20000 wounded. The Halabja poison gas attack caused an international outcry against the Iraqis. Later that year the U.S. Senate unanimously passed the "Prevention of Genocide Act", cutting off all U.S. assistance to Iraq and stopping U.S. imports of Iraqi oil. The Reagan administration opposed the bill, calling it premature, and eventually prevented it from taking effect, partly due to a mistaken DIA assessment which blamed Iran for the attack. At the time of the attack the town was held by Iranian troops and Iraqi Kurdish guerrillas allied with Tehran.[27] The Iraqis blamed the Halabja attack on Iranian forces. This was still the position of Saddam Hussein in his December 2003 captivity.[citation needed] On August 21, 2006, the trial of Saddam Hussein and six codefendants, including Hassan al-Majid ("Chemical Ali"), opened on charges of genocide against the Kurds. While this trial does not cover the Halabja attack, it does cover attacks on other villages during the Iraqi "Anfal" operation alleged to have included bombing with chemical weapons.
Iran-Iraq War
On 21 March 1986, the United Nations Security Council made a declaration stating that "members are profoundly concerned by the unanimous conclusion of the specialists that chemical weapons on many occasions have been used by Iraqi forces against Iranian troops and the members of the Council strongly condemn this continued use of chemical weapons in clear violation of the Geneva Protocol of 1925 which prohibits the use in war of chemical weapons." The United States was the only member who voted against the issuance of this statement.
Well, if my country got nerve-gassed and small-poxed because America was supplying WMDs to my asshole neighbor that's being led by Saddam Insane...


This is why America shouldn't invade Iran. This is why America should give the Iraqis some biochemical weapons so they can ravage Iran again.

(Only when Iraq goes nuts and attacks our Good Friends, The Kuwaitis, while scaring Saudi Arabia - our True Love - do we beat the everliving shit out of the Iraqis. But as long as they're gassing the Iranians and not the Kuwaitis or the Saudis, well...)

I certainly hope we can get Donald Rumsfeld back again...

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Fox News calls Michelle Obama "Obama's baby mama"
An on-screen graphic displayed the description during a segment about attacks on the wife of the presumptive Democratic nominee.

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Jun. 12, 2008 | An alert reader wrote in just a little while ago to let us know about something he'd spotted on Fox News Wednesday afternoon. During a segment discussing conservative attacks against Michelle Obama, the wife of presumptive Democratic nominee Barack Obama, the network described the former as "Obama's baby mama."

I checked, and sure enough, as you can see below, our e-mailer was right. In fact, that description was displayed on screen several times during the segment, which featured anchor Megyn Kelly and conservative blogger Michelle Malkin, an FNC contributor.

A clip of the segment in its entirety is below. You may notice that at one point, Malkin says, "By the way, it's not just Republicans who are criticizing some of her comments, but also statements have been made in the left-leaning blog Salon about her comments." I've searched the site, and I can't find anything like what Malkin is talking about. I've e-mailed Malkin asking for clarification -- if and when she responds, I'll update this post.

Update: Malkin responded to my e-mail; she says she misspoke and that she meant to refer to Slate, not Salon.
Goddamn Librul Media!

Of course, if this was indeed a Librul Media, the other outlets would be in outrage at this.

I wonder why everyone is silent at Faux Noose's antics?

Goddamn Libruls!



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Shroom Man 777 wrote:I wonder why everyone is silent at Faux Noose's antics?
Because they are Frankenstein monsters. Frankenstein monsters do stuff like that. :mrgreen:
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And another one bites the dust :cry:

Caribbean monk seal joins growing list of creatures that have left Earth.
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Malchus wrote:And another one bites the dust :cry:

Caribbean monk seal joins growing list of creatures that have left Earth.
Reminds me of the lonely whale. It appears that humans are bastards.
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George Carlin is dead.

Fuck. FuckfuckFUCK!
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What? What! Nooo!!
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Not really as familiar with the guy, though I do remember some of his routines being showed on some cable channels showing american stand up routines. And I know he was in a few movies--I think he was a hobo or hitchiker or something in Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back. He seemed pretty cool and damned funny, and it's a shame he's gone.

And just a little while earlier Stan Winston died too. That doesn't seem right for two cool iconic people to die right after each other.
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"You could not step twice into the same river; for other waters are ever flowing on to you." - Heraclitus
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"You could not step twice into the same river; for other waters are ever flowing on to you." - Heraclitus
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Heckuvajob, FEMA.
Prisons in Mississippi got coffee makers, pillowcases and dinnerware -- all intended for victims of Hurricane Katrina.
Agency spokeswoman Kym Wiggins said, "There may be a need, but we were not notified that there was a great need for this particular property."
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Invictus wrote:Heckuvajob, FEMA.
Prisons in Mississippi got coffee makers, pillowcases and dinnerware -- all intended for victims of Hurricane Katrina.
Agency spokeswoman Kym Wiggins said, "There may be a need, but we were not notified that there was a great need for this particular property."
And this from an agency that is capable of instituting martial law. I don't know what to think about this.

Elsewhere in the United States, God apparently hates McDonalds... but not for the same reasons as the rest of us.
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Annie Djit wrote:"Dear, McDonald's. Last week I ate a cheeseburger at your restaurant. If I would've known it was created by gay loving hands, I wouldn't have purchased it. Don't you guys know gays were behind the holocaust? First Jews, and now the family. What is next, McDonald's? Are you going to help gays eradicate sand? WHAT WILL WE DO WITHOUT SAND!?!?"
This made me laugh out loud; GAYS WILL ERADICATE ALL SAND IN THE WORLD!!! NAZIS WERE GAY!!! GAYS EXTERMINATE THE JEWS!!! THINK OF THE FAMILY!!!

I mean, if it weren't so absoludicrous it'd be sad, but since it is absoludicrous, I can't help but have bemused pity for this poor, brainwashed masses of idiotic fundies. They're just so pitiful now. Of course, I have to ask about one tiny detail. How do you actually eradicate sand?
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Dakarne wrote:Of course, I have to ask about one tiny detail. How do you actually eradicate sand?
Very carefully. 8-)
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"Sand" of course is shorthand for "search and destroy". Perhaps that is what they mean.

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No, they're just nutbags. Pay them no heed.
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Fundie morons going all upset (in the most moronic of ways) because of something that they perceive clashes with their close-minded beliefs. What else is new?

Although, the mental image of those overly-dramatic televangelists holding up a Happy Meal in front of the cameras before throwing it to the ground, stomping on it, and calling down fire and brimstone upon is pretty hilarious.

On another, unrelated note: What if America threw out all its illegal immigrants?
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