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Military Structures of the World

The purpose of this thread is to fleetingly outline the organizational structures of the world's largest militaries. Obviously not in too much detail (that would be impractical): the intention is to simply give an idea of the major components of a given nation's armed forces (hence why you won't see, say, the Coast Guard here) and their duties.


Military Forces of the United States

A short overview of the branches and Functional Combatant Commands of the US military. Each branch has its own Secretary (EG, Secretary of the Army, Secretary of the Navy, etc.) which answer to the Secretary of Defence, who answers to the President of the United States, who is the Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces.

United States Army
'This we'll defend'

Primary responsibility for land-based military operations. Geared towards the fighting of ‘heavy war’ against Soviet forces. Rarely deployed outside of CONUS (exceptions are the Korean demarcation line and the Kingdom of Iraq, in both of which cases the Army acts as a de facto deterrent force). Employs one of the largest arsenals of tactical nuclear weapons in the world, ranging from artillery rounds and tactical nuclear recoilless rifles to the atomic MLRS.

United States Navy
'Non Sibi Sed Patriae'

Responsible for conducting naval operations. Important aspect of the United States' nuclear strategic deterrence policy through SLBMs and nuclear ordinance carried aboard CBGs. Operates 280 ships in active service (most famously the Nimitz-class and the newer Langley-class supercarriers) and more than 3,700 aircraft (A-15 Thunderwave, F-116 Sea Serpent variant). Also responsible for a majority of US military satellite launches (from Stennis Space Centre)

United States Marine Corps
'Semper Fidelis'

Responsible for providing force projection on land from the sea. Rapid response force, also usually employed for ‘light’ combat operations that do not require the full brunt of the Army’s heavy armour. Recently branched out to ‘on land from space’. USMC Space Cavalry (SPACECAV) employs S-4D ‘Hot Eagle’ orbital insertion gunships and MAGIC (Marine Advanced Global Insertion Capsule) drop pods.

United States Aerospace Forces
'Uno ab alto'

Primary aerial/spaceborne warfare branch. Maintains aircraft that can operate anywhere from low altitude to the vacuum of space, as well as an armed space station (MAWS-1) and several Venture Star class shuttles. Maintains and crews USA BMD, cruise missile squadrons, and KKV satellites. Air Force Satellite Control Network provides support for the operation, control, and maintenance of a variety of United States DoD satellites. Largest and potentially most destructive strategic bomber fleet in the world. (ICBM force has been dismantled.)

Functional Combatant Commands

A Functional Combatant Command (FCC) is a United States joint military command composed of forces from two or more services, has a broad and continuing mission, and is organized on a functional basis (in contrast with Unified Combatant Commands, which are responsible for a specific geographic area). The supreme commander of an FCC has control over the assets assigned to his command.

Strategic Command
USSTRATCOM

USSTRATCOM is charged with the overall coordination of US DoD space operations, information operations, integrated missile defence, global C4ISR, global strike, strategic deterrence, and combating weapons of mass destruction, as well as the detecting, tracking, cataloguing and identifying man-made objects orbiting Earth. It controls the strategic weapons of the U.S. military and coordinates space activity. Historically an extension of SAC, de facto part of USAF with token USN support.

Special Operations Command
USSOCOM

The United States Special Operations Command is the FCC charged with overseeing the various Special Operations Commands of the US military. Each branch has a Special Operations Command capable of running their own operations, but when the different Special Operations Forces need to work together for an operation, USSOCOM becomes the joint component command of the operation. The command conducts several overt and clandestine missions such as; unconventional warfare, foreign internal defence, special reconnaissance, direct action, counter-terrorism and counter-drug operations. Commander is typically US Army.

Transportation Command
USTRANSCOM

The mission of USTRANSCOM is to provide air, land and sea transportation for the Department of Defence, both in time of peace and time of war. TRANSCOM coordinates the movement of troops using mainly sealift and airlift (and occasionally spacelift) provided by the Air Force's Air Mobility Command, the Navy's Military Sealift Command and the Army's Surface Deployment and Distribution Command. Commander is typically USN.

Special Conditions Command
USSPECCON

Not to be confused with SOCOM. SPECCON deals with ‘special conditions’, extraordinary circumstances that require non-traditional military solutions. These circumstances include the supernatural, unconventional biohazards, ‘Class II artefacts’, the extraterrestrial, runaway hypertechnology, combinations of the previous, and other ‘atypic threats’ to national security. SPECCON monitors known ‘hotspots’ such as ‘special site 12’ in the South Pacific, interdicts in case ‘a problem arises’ (EG when the excrement hits the oscillator) and fabricates cover stories in the aftermath of such events. Known for (even by military standards) unusually obfuscatory language. Existence of this command is classified as secret. XK-MASADA is under the purview of SPECCON.
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The SAC is still operational, yes?


I can't wait to see what the Ruskies have, particularly when it's all networked by SICKLE.
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Shroom Man 777 wrote:The SAC is still operational, yes?
Yes, it's a part of the USAF but under the purview of STRATCOM (which is really just the USAF plus some other stuff anyway).
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It does me proud to see that this version of the U.S. Army also maintains an obcession with nuclear munitions. I'm sure Sherman would be proud. :mrgreen:
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Everying in the SPECCOM section was extremely giggle worthy. :)
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Military Forces of the Soviet Union

The military of the USSR is divided into five branches, each of which has its own Stavka (general headquarters) which answers to the General Staff of the Armed Forces, at the head of which stands the Marshal of the Soviet Union, who answers to the Premier.

Red Army

The Red Army (formerly the Ground Forces, formerly the Soviet Army, formerly the Red Army) is the largest ground army in the world, although after its transition from a conscription-based force to a (mostly) volunteer force in the 1980’s it has significantly shrunk in size. As of 2000 however it still commands 20.000 main battle tanks and over 15.000 armed infantry fighting vehicles, more than any other mechanized force in existence. The headquarters of the Red Army is a facility buried underneath Mount Narodnaya, the highest peak of the Russian Urals. The mountain is outfitted with sophisticated BMD systems, including short- and long-range missiles and lasers. It is also home to one of the primary SICKLE brain rooms, key to maintaining the Soviet Union’s artificial intelligence battle manager. As of 2005 the military district surrounding the mountains is defended by an entire division of elite Soviet troops, complimented by several experimental ‘autonomous motor rifle regiments’, composed entirely of robotic vehicles commanded by remote AI.

Soviet Air Defence Force

The SADF is split in four main branches: Long Range Aviation focuses on long-range bombers and trans-atmospheric fighters, Frontal Aviation focuses on close air support and interdiction on the front lines, Military Transport Aviation controls transport aircraft, and Air Defence Forces focus on air defence (including ground-to-air missile and ground-to-space battalions outfitted with missiles and lasers) and interceptor aircraft. Unlike the United States the reach of SADF craft does not extend into space, that role being subordinated to the Strategic Deterrent Forces. As of 2001 the air defence forces are composed of a majority female pilots (combat and otherwise), something unique in the armed forces of any superpower to date.

Soviet Navy

Often referred to as the ‘Red Fleet’, the Navy is divided into seven major fleets: the Northern Fleet, the Pacific Ocean Fleet, the Black Sea Fleet and the Baltic Fleet. Apart from sizeable numbers of missile cruisers, submarines and three supercarriers the Navy includes Naval Aviation, Naval Infantry (the Soviet equivalent of marines) and Coastal Artillery components. Note that beside carrier wings Naval Aviation also commands a number of strategic bombers outfitted with high-speed anti-shipping missiles. The Soviet Navy also commands the largest number of nuclear submarines in the world, including the Typhoon II class, believed to be the largest submarine type in the world. The Soviet Navy maintains several naval bases in Africa and two on formerly unclaimed islands in the Indian Ocean.

Soviet Airborne Troops

The SAT, or VDV, is composed of airmobile assault Guards Rifle Divisions. Their role is comparable to that of the US Marine Corps, with the obvious caveat that the USMC assaults mainly amphibiously whereas the SAT are chiefly airmobile. Unlike western airborne units, which must walk when they arrive at their destination, the VDV divisions are equipped with armoured fighting vehicles, artillery and anti-aircraft guns, trucks and jeeps, elevating them to a fully integrated arms rapid-response force. Since the late 1990’s the VDV have experimented with trans-atmospheric insertion, although the bulk of Soviet military spacelift still resides under the Strategic Deterrent Forces. The VDV maintains its own Spetznaz (Special Forces) detachment of ‘augment specialists’, cyborg soldiers outfitted with simple (in comparison to Comrade Hammer and the KGB’s augment operators) cybernetics that nonetheless significantly improve their effectiveness.

Strategic Deterrent Forces

The SDF was formed by the merger of the Strategic Rocket Forces and the Soviet Space Forces in 1982. It controls all strategic assets, including the ICBM and IRBM regiments; all nuclear weapons; the orbital missile silos; railroad and road-mobile missile launch complexes; the Space Fighter Regiments; the military space station MIR; the laser satellite grid; and the Soviet Union’s strategic spacelift assets. Its main facilities are located inside and outside Russia, with the majority of them being located in Siberian ‘numbered cities’, or at Baikonur Cosmodrome and Sary Shagan Strategic Weapons Testing Range (both in Kazakhstan).


SICKLE

The central Soviet artificial intelligence battle manager system (codename SICKLE) is a vital part of the General Staff of the Armed Forces. As an ‘intelligent distributed network’ it is an unparalleled C4ISR system, but it also controls AI assets like the MiG-37 Firebird and the MiG-41 Tombstone, effectively integrating the separate services to an unprecedented degree: where before a forward headquarters needed to be staffed with soldiers from separate branches in order to access various resources a VDV commander in the field can now request air support or receive satellite data through SICKLE without requiring the presence of SADF or SDF officers. But SICKLE is more than a simple network: it is a thinking entity with vastly superhuman processing power, which means that all too often it (or she, as the Russians tend to address it) will recognize the need for (as an example) artillery support and relay the orders to provide such before the local commander do, incrementally increasing the fighting ability of the Soviet armed forces.

The core of SICKLE are its ‘brain rooms’, which are scattered across the world (and indeed in space), making it all but impossible to neutralize the network in one strike. Known primary brain rooms are located in the Mount Narodnaya facility in the Urals, in a nuclear bunker underneath the Palace of the Soviets in Moscow, at Sary Shagan in Kazakhstan and aboard MIR. Rumour is that one of the Mars fly-by satellites the Russians launched during the 1990s dropped a secondary backup brain core in high orbit over the Red Planet, and that there is an automated SICKLE facility on the moon.

Apart from the primary brain rooms there are secondary and tertiary brain rooms which provide additional functions to the main network (real-time tactical subprocessors, digital transceivers, sub-arrays, self-contained cloned operating systems, signal boosting / encryption / decryption stations, etc.) Secondary and tertiary brain rooms are typically not self-aware (as opposed to the primary ones, which together form SICKLEs coherent core personality) but are simply additional resources that support the network.

Primary, secondary and tertiary rooms communicate through a set of handshake cohabitation protocols that integrate them with the main network to form SICKLE as a whole. (Although as the Russian Crisis would prove it was initially possible to offline and split parts of the network to form them into a separate distinct personality – as of 2012 however this design error was corrected.)

Lower again than the tertiary brain rooms are local nodes, which can range from a supercomputer in a strategic headquarters to a field agent’s laptop, but which each have the ability to communicate with the larger network – EG to receive information from SICKLE and ‘talk’ to it (sometimes literally, again depending on the form of the node).
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I wonder just what manner of security measures the Soviets would have to protect the sanctity of SICKLE, so the goddamn crapitalists don't get their hands on the wondrous tech of Artificial Intelligence!

Where is the Megalith of the Motherland? :) ;)
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SICKLE over Mars, now that's downright neat. Though we'll have to iron out the Russian Crisis in regards to SICKLE over the chats.
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Behold the power of SICKLE! I think it's cute that the Russians have begun to, vaguely, anthropomorphise her.
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Any particular reason why the majority of the SADF are comprised of females?
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Magister Militum wrote:Any particular reason why the majority of the SADF are comprised of females?
A military actually representative of the world populace? Say it ain't so! :P I'd imagine the USSR, dirty pinko commies that they are, would lead the world with equality. Never mind that women are smaller and usually smarter- hell, it's been floating around since the eighties that women should the constituency of the submarine force, but since 99% of navy training in on the job, getting a full crew through would be impossible.
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Shroom Man 777 wrote:I wonder just what manner of security measures the Soviets would have to protect the sanctity of SICKLE, so the goddamn crapitalists don't get their hands on the wondrous tech of Artificial Intelligence!
For one, the brain rooms are located in places inaccessible to Western agents and defended by prodiguous amounts of firepower (underneath a mountain defended by an entire division of elite troops and robot tanks, aboard a space station fitted with giant space lasers, or underneath the Palace of Soviets which has the Hand of Lenin mounted on top of it). For another, SICKLE is incompatible with any other operating system in existence, and unhackable because it's better at manipulating code than any human on the planet. And finally, I'm far from sure the Western powers actually want an artificial intelligence in command of their strategic toys...
Where is the Megalith of the Motherland?
The closest thing to it is Sary Shagan Strategic Weapons Testing Grounds (lots of missiles, lots of lasers, lots of concrete).
Magister Militum wrote:Any particular reason why the majority of the SADF are comprised of females?
I vaguely recall reading some studies indicating that women are slightly better at resisting g-forces and have on average slightly faster reflexes, plus there is the whole 'socialist equality' thing, but frankly it's mostly a matter of author's fiat. The Soviet Union is highly "feminine" to contrast it with the male-dominated military and political systems of the West (Premier Kiralova is female, SICKLE is female, etc.) 'Course, that's entirely OOC...
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The Soviets have always historically been ahead of the curve as far as gender equality goes. Just look at all the women given Hero of the Soviet Union awards during WWII. With Zhadanova's reconstruction, I imagine they could have easily taken even further steps in that direction.
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Thanks to their ovaries, women can withstand the funny blood effects of high-G since they're also built to withstand blood loss from making babies. So, yeah.

So, the capitalist pigdogs at the West are totally far behind in the AI tech? :?:
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SiegeTank wrote: For one, the brain rooms are located in places inaccessible to Western agents and defended by prodiguous amounts of firepower (underneath a mountain defended by an entire division of elite troops and robot tanks, aboard a space station fitted with giant space lasers, or underneath the Palace of Soviets which has the Hand of Lenin mounted on top of it). For another, SICKLE is incompatible with any other operating system in existence, and unhackable because it's better at manipulating code than any human on the planet. And finally, I'm far from sure the Western powers actually want an artificial intelligence in command of their strategic toys...
Wait a second. The USSR actually finished the Palace of Soviets, giant Lenin statue and all!? :shock: I would think that Operation Barbarossa would have put an end to that. Of course, this is CSW, after all.
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Well, Shadow Tempest Black has its own plans for the Palace of the Soviets, MIR, and one other great Russian landmark. I'm just saying.. :)

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Magister Militum wrote:Wait a second. The USSR actually finished the Palace of Soviets, giant Lenin statue and all!?
Yes. They also built a strategic laser into Lenin's hand. The palace (these days it houses the Ministry of Science and Technology) is an integral part of the Moscow BMD (and admittedly a high point of kookyness for CSW).
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SiegeTank wrote: Yes. They also built a strategic laser into Lenin's hand. The palace (these days it houses the Ministry of Science and Technology) is an integral part of the Moscow BMD (and admittedly a high point of kookyness for CSW).
The old Giant Ants were probably stranger, though. :)

That said, the majority of the SDAF being female feels rather Captain Scarlet. Which is awesome.
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An attempt to make sense of the bewildering variety of special forces units that keep popping up in this universe. This includes I believe all units mentioned so far, although at any given time Mobius might invent new ones, so bear with me here ;).

United States Military

United States Army

Green Berets
One of the oldest and most distinguished special forces units of the US military, the Green Berets, is a Special Operations Force tasked with five primary missions: unconventional warfare, foreign internal defence, special reconnaissance, direct action, and counter-terrorism. The first two emphasize language, cultural, and training skills in working with foreign troops. Other duties include combat search and rescue (CSAR), security assistance, peacekeeping, humanitarian assistance, humanitarian demining, counter-proliferation, psychological operations, manhunts, and counter-drug operations.

Delta Force
The 1st Special Forces Operations Detachment Delta is more famously known as 'Delta Force'. The unit focuses on counter-terrorism, counter-insurgency, and national intervention operations although it is an extremely versatile group capable of assuming many covert missions, including, but not limited to, rescuing hostages and raids. As one of the most famous and dependable special forces units they are considered an integral element of Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC). Delta Force companies pride themselves for never having disobeyed an illegal order, unlike many other special operations units. This tradition massively complicated their position during the second Secret War, in which it refused several times to carry out the orders handed to it by North American combatant commanders, who sought to undermine the authority of the commander-in-chief.

MIKE Force
Mobile Strike Force, colloquially known as 'MIKE Force' is an Army unit specializing in 'foreign internal defence'. They combat actual or threatened insurgency in foreign states, usually (though not always) nations aligned with the United States of America. MIKE operators work with and train local troops in guerilla warfare, counter-insurgency, reconnaissance and search-and-rescue operations. A large number of them are active in Iran. MIKE Force companies have an odd habit of 'going native', incorporating many local customs into their habits, developing strange hybrid ethics systems, and wearing non-regulation uniforms. This habit is very much frowned upon by Army command, which has more than once contemplated disbanding the unit.

75th Ranger Regiment
The 75th Rangers are a US Army elite light infantry special operations force composed of rapidly-deployable light infantry forces with specialized skills that enable them to perform a variety of special operations missions – airborne, air assault, and direct action operations, raids, infiltration and exfiltration by air, land or sea in addition to airfield seizure, recovery of personnel and special equipment, and support of general purpose forces (GPF), among other uses. Because each Ranger battalion is expected to be able to deploy anywhere in the world within 12 hours notice they are frequently on the scene before regular troops arrive – hence their motto, 'Rangers Lead The Way'.

Night Stalkers
'Night Stalkers' is the nickname for the 201st Special Operations Aviation Regiment (SOAR). Heliborne special forces providing high-speed low-altitude, rapid deployment attack, assault, and reconnaissance capability. The Night Stalkers specialize in night warfare, and make extensive use of psychological warfare. As one of the few special forces units in the united states military the 201st recruits women. During the second Secret War the Night Stalkers were commanded by Colonel Thaddeus Gray Teague, and were aligned with the DoD.

Intelligence Support Activity
Better known as ISA or simply as 'The Activity'. The Activity was officially disbanded in '89, but was classified 'beyond top secret' and transferred to Special Conditions Command (SPECCON), the unified combatant command charged with the handling of 'anomalous phenomena' such as rampant hypertech, extraterrestrial threats and the remnants of Gosely’s CIA and their black book experiments. Officially still part of the Army due to its heritage, but ISA is a de-facto independent organization; in fact roughly fifty percent of its operators are drawn from other branches of the armed forces.


United States Navy

Navy Seals
Navy SEALs are employed in direct action and special reconnaissance operations. SEALs are also capable of employing unconventional warfare, foreign internal defense, hostage rescue, counter-terrorism, and other missions. Their targets include ships, oil rigs, naval bases or other civilian or military facilities accessible from the sea or inland waterways. SEAL Team Six is also known as DEVGRU, and is the USN's tier-one counter-terrorism and special mission unit, comparable to Delta Force.

Red Cell
A Navy special forces team originally tasked with the testing of the effectiveness of U.S. tactics and personnel in war games and during unannounced probes of security surrounding military bases inside and outside CONUS. During the second Secret War the Red Cell teams were used with devastating effect by the DoD, using their intimate knowledge of U.S. military standard operations to search out and exploit weaknesses in the security of presidentialist units. In the aftermath of the Secret War the Red Cell teams were disbanded, and many of its commanders were charged with and convicted of high treason.


United States Aerospace Force

25th 'Fighting Falcons' Special Tactics Squadron
As one of the Special Tactics units of the USAF Special Operations Command (AFSOC) the duties of the 25th STS include close in reconnaissance and investigation of possible landing sites, quickly securing/identifying/neutralizing ground targets, as well as reinforcement or extraction of troops under extreme circumstances, and medical evacuations. During the second Secret War the 25th STS was commanded by Colonel Screamin' Jason Hawkins, and furtively aided the side of the President Sky against explicit orders.

Air Force Pararescue
Nicknamed 'PJs', USAF Pararescue operatives are tasked with recovery and medical treatment of personnel in humanitarian and combat environments. They are the only members of the DoD specifically organized, trained and equipped to conduct personnel recovery operations in hostile or denied areas as a primary mission. Famous for being able to extract troops from hostile, sensitive, or otherwise undesirable locations, under any weather conditions.

Reapers
The 7th Special Operations Squadron of the 352nd Special Operations Group (SOG), nicknamed 'Reapers', conduct high-priority, low-visibility direct action missions. Usually these are high-risk, and frequently of a clandestine nature, including 'trashcan' operations, cleaning up the remnants of black ops gone wrong. Most often this takes the form of the 'termination with extreme prejudice' (i.e. assassination) of any potential resistance. In 2011 a turncoat Reaper squad played a pivotal role during the course of events of Shadow Tempest Black

Blue Light
320th Special Tactics Squadron of the 353rd SOG. Nicknamed 'Cleaners'. This unit consists of so-called 'Air Ordnance Artefacts', experimental military cyborgs reclassified as devices rather than human beings. This unit is equipped with limited numbers of the much sought after INTEGRAL TEMPEST battle armours produced by Saint Industries, making them extremely lethal in combat. They are usually deployed in search-and-destroy ('SAND') operations. They have a sordid reputation for leaving no witnesses to their operations.


Marine Corps

Marine Force Recon
Force Reconnaissance Companies are one of the United States Marine Corps's special operations "capable" forces that provide pertinent military intelligence to the combined combat elements of the Marine Air-Ground Task Force. Their main tasks are deep reconnaissance, direct action, and other supportive tasks deemed necessary by the commanders of the marine task force. They are trained in both heliborne and waterborne insertions and extractions.

Starbolts
Starbolt Companies form the ground strike component of USMC Spacecav. Individual operators also known as the 'Comet Dogs' or 'Space Marines'. Starbolt troopers are trained in zero-g combat as well as space-to-ground insertion by way of Hot Eagle orbital insertion gunships or MAGIC capsules. Their coveted unit insignia is a gold five-pointed star shooting out a single lightning bolt, with the Marine Corps motto 'semper fidelis'.

Omega Unit
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Hah, so Red Cell finally got to do what they DO do in all those simulations! :lol:

Ah, GRAY FOX gets to be eevil!

You know, if the Marines get Space Cav, the USN should have the SEALs become SEALS, as in Sea Air Land and SPAAAACE!

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I'd imagine the Soviets' Spetznaz units would have far larger numbers of cyborgs? Does the USA even HAVE combat cyborgs?
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Red Cell is totally getting used for SHADOW TEMPEST BLACK 2.
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Mobius, you abducted Shadow Tempest. I demand you return it at once, and unharmed, before I am forced to send in SWAT!
Shroom Man 777 wrote:You know, if the Marines get Space Cav, the USN should have the SEALs become SEALS, as in Sea Air Land and SPAAAACE!
That is a silly idea. What's the point of SEAL teams in space? There's no waterways, ships or oil rigs in space, in fact the only presence the Navy has in space is its (huge) satellite network. The principal reason why the Marines were handed the orbital insertion role was because the brass felt the USAF was getting too politically powerful (the decision to make Spacecav a branch of the USMC pissed off a lot of USAF generals).
Shroom Man 777 wrote:I'd imagine the Soviets' Spetznaz units would have far larger numbers of cyborgs?
Obviously.
Shroom Man 777 wrote:Does the USA even HAVE combat cyborgs?
Clearly they do; if they didn't, Blue Light would not exist.
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Rite, brainfarts!

But whereas the USSR is deploying cyborgs en masse in all sorts of Spetznaz units, popping 'em like candies and stuff, the USA's cyborgs are still secret and experimental. Just how far is the gap?! Just how far ahead IS the USSR in these, and other, technologies?
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Shroom Man 777 wrote:But whereas the USSR is deploying cyborgs en masse in all sorts of Spetznaz units, popping 'em like candies and stuff, the USA's cyborgs are still secret and experimental. Just how far is the gap?! Just how far ahead IS the USSR in these, and other, technologies?
Well that sorta depends on what technologies you had in mind, dunnit?

As for cyborgs, the USSR's augments at least retain most of their humanity even when they are, like Col. Muranov, transmogrified into beings more steel than flesh. American military cyborgs meanwhile I imagine are pretty horrid grotesqueries. Like, they can't sleep, they don't recognize themselves in the mirror, and they have wires stuck in their brain that stimulate sexual pleasure when they kill. Basically they're enhanced without regard for their sanity or humanity, hence why they are classified as devices rather than soldiers. The end result is a series of machines that are real good at killing stuff, but are certifiably insane.

Myself, I'd take the Soviet approach over that, but if you're ruthless enough I guess it gets you where you want to go.
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Siege wrote:Like, they can't sleep, they don't recognize themselves in the mirror, and they have wires stuck in their brain that stimulate sexual pleasure when they kill.
Oh man.
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